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On this page our goal is to compile a more or less accurate history
of the Goth scene in our fair city. I do not profess to know everything
so assistance will be greatly appreciated.
If you have any information you wish to add, then by all means e-mail
me at ogremind@hotmail.com.
Now then, without further adieu (did I spell that right?)......
1980 - Somewhere around this time there was a place called The Cauldron. It was a punk joint somewhere on Princess Ave. Thanks to Liberty for bringing this to memory. Can anyone give specifics to when it opened, how long it ran, and why it ended?
1982 - The Cure plays at Wellingtons. In between songs,
Robert Smith has to put up with assholes shouting "PLAY SOME
LED ZEPPELIN, FUCK!!!" Ah, Winnipeg.
1981-198? - Dan Pachet, an extremely cool guy who wasn't
able to get a show on public radio for the music he wanted to play,
took his act to VPW, Winnipegs local access community station and
called the program ALTERNATIVE ROCKSTAND!!! An amazing show, he
played all the weird & obscure stuff which the regular radio
wouldn't touch. Among the musical guests who had erformed
in it were The Chocolate Bunnies From Hell, Johnny Zhivago, and
local punk legends The Stretch Marks. I had the pleasure of meeting
this Television DJ twice, and Dan, if you're reading this, Dan,
PLEASE CONTACT ME!!!! I want this listing to be accurate, and you
and your show deserve proper credit.
1983? - Europa, Canada's First New Wave band (or does
the title belong to Images In Vogue?) is formed in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
With Russ Psooy (vocals), Ian Thorlakson (vocals, synths) and Nick
Muruve (synths), Europa's style was heavily influenced by the
European new wave. The band didnt issue any recordings, and only
played locally, but are noteworthy for being one of the first Canadian
bands, along with Rational Youth, to forego guitars and rely entirely
upon synths and drum machines to make their music. Two songs, "Turn
Back Away" and "Syntax and Semantics" can be found
on youtube.
May 25, 1983 - The
Stranglers performed at the Playhouse Theatre. Excellent show!!!!
Wall of Voodoo were scheduled to open for them, but for whatever
reason, they didn't show and thus local Synth Rock guys, Johnny
Zhivago, played in their place. I remember Zhivago doing a great
rendition of Lords of The New Churchs "Open Your Eyes". DO NOT confuse
these guys with the London rock group which goes under the same
name.
1984 - Nash the Slash opened for The Spoons at the Marlburough.
Thanks to our friend Simon H for the general information ("it
was a pretty defining moment"), and we thank Marina for the
actual date & location.
December 19, 1985 - Skinny Puppy perform at The Winnipeg
Art Gallery. According to our Friend, Jay (Thanks by the way),
Alternative Rockstand broadcasted this gig live on local TV. As
Jay explains, "additional material from the mid-80s was added
to the cd release of Back and Forth. I'm guessing the "intro"
track on the cd came from the Le Rendevou show you mention, as it
reflected the more brapped-out sound the band had once Dwayne joined.
January 1986 - Skinny Puppy perform a second time at The
Winnipeg Art Gallery (Again, thanks to Jay for this spec). Skinny
Puppy and Severed Heads (with opening act Just Ducky - yah Eve!)
played Le Rendevous. As our friend Richard explains: "Skinny Puppy
played at the Winnipeg Art Gallery in or around 1984. But, the reason
I'm thinkin' it was 1984 was that their Back and Forth CD was a
collection recordings from 81-84, and it included the 'Intro (Live
in Winnipeg)' as track one, so it must have been recorded at the
Art Gallery show (well before the Le Rendevous show)." Thanks, Richard!
December 12, 1986 - The Mentors bring their Rape Rock
to Wellingtons. The place was packed, and so was the street outside
as activists gathered to protest the show. As our friend, Kevin
(WHO WAS THERE) tells us , "violence did break out during the
show, one downtown scum regular came over from the pool tables and
started to punch Rob Clark in the face because he was dancing by
himself. Somebody threw a beer bottle at El Duce and just missed
his head. Somebody punched El duce in the head when the band finished
playing and one of the knight brothers kicked the fuck out of glen
dunitz. Nobody got stabbed, there was no raid and the place didn't
get shut down. Harry and abe wouldn't do the show on the following
night because of threats of more violence even though we offered
to hire an actual cop to work the gig in uniform. On the saturday
night The Mentors went to see Metallica at the playhouse because
they were friends and Hetfield told the crowd they were going to
see the mentors at wellingtons after the show. There was bound to
be more violence but it probably would have been outside.
My friend Andy Siveri used to talk to sickie on the phone all the
time so one day we asked them if they would play in Winnipeg if
we flew them up and they said sure, that's how it happened. We did
a three way split with mike lambert and we all made zip, including
the band but we kept them drunk and stoned all weekend."
Thank you, Kevin!
More details of this infamous night can be found here http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/historic/33163299.html
1987 - Jim Cebrowski makes Winnipeg Goth History by starting
an Alternative night on saturdays at Wellingtons. Managed by a good
friend, Phil, the evening placed emphasis on goth (also at the time
referred to as "Cold Wave") and industrial. With DJ John/Skid/DJ
Morpheus, they set the template from which everything would eventually
follow. I was there for that first night, and it changed me forever!!
I was blown away that there was a club where I could actually hear
all the stuff which up til then, I only listened to at home or at
a friends. To finally find that kind of setting was spiritually
liberating!!!
1988 - An Alternative Music night makes Scandals Fun Club
the place to be on Mondays with DJ Brian St. Clair (and occassionally
guest DJ Todd Jarema). It lasted for quite a while and was very
succesful in introducing the University crowd to the some cool music.
The club has since changed it's name numerous times, but it's a
part of the Norlander Hotel on 1792 Pembina
1988? - Club DVA, another Roman Panchyshyn /Simon Helm/Peter
P project, was an itinerant club which split up and grew into Ground
Zero and then the Love Bomb. Thanks for the info, Simon.
1989? - The Chameleon club, an after hours venue ran for
a while. A cool place from what I heard.
198? - Wednesday at Scandals with DJ John were apparently
the nights to remember in the old days. Need to get more information
about this.
1990 - Roman Panchyshyn (currently running Wild Planet) opens
Love Bomb - an all ages alternative bar, where
I was bartender for a while. Located next to the Blue Note, it was a very
cool place, which gradually became
Winnipeg's first rave spot.
1990 - The Webb Nightclub opened for a while downtown.
It was an alternative music night featuring DJ Brian St. Clair who
spun classic Depeche Mode, Cure, New Order, and Nitzer Ebb. Typically
an Old School Night while Wellingtons down the street was a bit
more hardcore with the Skinny Puppy and Ministry by DJ Skid(later
known as DJ Morpheus)
May 31, 1992 - Alien Sex Fiend played at The Spectrum.
AND I WAS THERE TO SEE THEM!!! YES!!! (And where in Bleeding Hades
were the rest of you?!!!)
1993 - Wellingtons becomes The Crypt (Winnipegs first
and only fetish bar).
1995 - Having made his statement With the Crypt
now resting in peace (SOB!!) Daemon goes on to his next project
- Winnipegs Ultimate Alternative Bar, Die Maschine. Wednesday is
Goth Night! First manifestation of Ogremind would appear there.
1995 - Local Industrial band, Boldface Industry release
their awesome CD, Storm.
Summer 1996 - DJ Count Zero (who had been doing the Goth
Industrial Wednesday INTERFACE night at Die Maschine) leaves for
BC. He recommends me to Die Maschine as his replacement. It shocked
the bloody Hell out of me. Anyway, Ogremind was thus born.
October 26, 1996 - The First Black & Blue Ball takes
place at Ozzies. Created by Master Bryan, Mistress Vanilla, and Master Payne (among others),
it featured the band, Psychotic Gardening and yours truly as DJ.
1997 - Ogremind is resurrected (How Goth!!!) at Wellingtons,
on Fridays. Thanks completely to Elizabeth Cudmore who was managing
the place at the time, and gave us the chance. She went through
soooooo much crap down there (as did ANYONE who ever worked for
Harry) , and we appreciate what she did for us. The Scene owes you
so much, Beth!!!! THANK YOU!!!
1998 - The Crypt has been resurrected (How can you get
more Goth than that?!!!) as a Goth/Fetish/Leather/Body Art Shop.
Not the Night Club we so fondly remember, but it's cool none the
less!!!
December 10, 1998 - Mediaeval Baebes play at the Walker
Theatre. God, they were hot!!! And that rendition of the song from
The Wicker Man......
1999 - The Misfits play at Les Rendezvous. Local Band,
The Horribles, opens for them (All Right, Andy!!!!) Thanks for the
tip, Robbie.
October 6, 1999 - Prairie Darkness, Winnipegs first goth
egroups list (and if not the first, it was certainly the pre-dominant
one) is started by our friend, Cara.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/prairiedarkness/
October 29, 1999 - The first HellNight is held at Wellingtons.
Fantastic turn out, stressful like you would not believe, but it
was all worth it. We showed the city what it was capable of!!! By
WE I mean EVERYONE IN THE SCENE. WE KNEW THE SCENE WAS STRONG, AND
WE MADE THE EVENING!!!!! EVERYONE OF US!!!
New Years Eve, 1999 at Wellingtons - 2000 came, and.......NOTHING
HAPPENED!!! Whutthufuk? Where was the Angel of Death? What happened
with the Millenium Bug? What, no Anti-Christ? How anti-climatic!!!!
BUT VR ROCKED THE PLACE!!! It would be their second performance
ever since their mindblowing first gig a month earlier with us.
March 10, 2000 - Gitane Demone nearly played at The Royal
Albert. Medical problems caused the show to be cancelled (Bloody
Hell!!!).
June 2000 - I finally get off my arse and create this
website. Ogremind still continues at Wellingtons. For the Love of
Goth indeed!!!
2001 - The Final Death Blow to Wellingtons: There was
a Sunday one summer when I was DJing for a Fashion show, and quite
the event it was. Before the doors opened, one of the models went
to the bartender to notify him that a toilet in the womans washroom
(where they were dressing) was overflowing. Without a word or pause,
the bartender reached down behind the bar and passed her a plunger.
Ahem....This was a professional model who was brought in from Calgary,
and they expected her to plunger shit from their toilet. without
a word, she handed back the plunger, went back to the "Dressing
Room" and had a fit. in the week after the show, the health
board and liqour commission BOTH came to visit all at once and shut
the place down for (among other things) various health violations
in the womens washroom. It's strongly belived that before the model
headed off back to Calgary, she left Harry a goodbye gift with reporting
the place. Wellingtons would never re-open. The building is later
sold, and the basement gutted.
Oct 31, 2003 - HellNight was cancelled, but Echo & The
Bunnymen play at The Pyramid!!!
2003 - Local Musician Jeremy Pillipow produces and releases his own demo, "left alone to die" under the pseudonym "Distorted Memory" which would become the name by which he becomes known as. Working his ass off, he then creates a full length album "Beyond the Darkness" for Noitek records and becomes the most successful industrial ebm act to come out of Manitoba.
January 2004 - Industrial Evilution
begins at The Purple Peanut (formerly
called Ozzies) in the Osborne Village. An amazing evening of hardcore
industrial spun by DJ Atom. Three months later, I was invited to co-DJ and
the music became more diverse with Goth, Ethereal and Death Metal.
January 2004 - Sublight Records comes into existence.
Local Artists on this label are Synkro and Venetian Snares.
January 2004 - Artificial Intelligence, Winnipeg's first
all industrial/electro club night, opens at Die Maschine with DJ
Aaron Rintoul. A valiant attempt, it would run 4 weeks. Aaron would
later ignite Sublight Records, and speaking of which.....
Oct 5, 2004 - Ministry, thrill kill kult, hanzel und gretyl
played the Burton Cummings theatre. I couldn't make it. SHIT!!!!!
I heard that (In general) Hanzel Und Gretyl rocked, Thrill Kill
was a bit lame, and Ministry were fantastic.
Oct 13, 2004 - KMFDM played at The Pyramid. Amazing show!!!!
Had a blast!!! It was also extremely nice and generous of the band
to continue their performance after some Waste of Flesh threw a
glass at them.
Oct 29, 2004 - With our sponsor, The Crypt,
We celebrate our return to Friday Nights at Die Maschine with HELLNIGHT
2004. Amazing crowd, and I thank everyone who showed up. Escepcially
the guy dressed as Captain Spaulding (You F***ING RULED, MAN!!!!)
Nov 20, 2004 - Gwar bloody up The Pyramid....and I don't
recall seeing a single review of the show.
February 2005 - At the urgings of our friend, Jenya (who refined this site),
I drag my
ass out of the coma and ressurrect the website. and now it's March and I'm
trying like
Bloody Hell to update this thing.
April 23, 2005 - PHANTOMPALOOZA!!!!
30th Anniversary Celebration of Brian de Palmas "Phantom of The
Paradise" opening in Winnipeg. PHUCKING AMAZING IT WAS!!!! The entrance
by special guests WILLIAM FINLEY and GERRIT GRAHAM was emotionally
INTENSE. COMPLETE ROCK STAR STATUS!!!! I screamed my lungs out in
a standing ovation alongside with the other 500 people packed into
the theatre!!!! Jessica
Harper (Phoenix, looking as lovely as she ever has) could not
attend, but made a touching recorded "Hello" to us. I can't say
it enough!!! PHUCKING BEAUTIFUL!!! Bloody Hell, we WERE in The Paradise!!!!
Say what you want, to me THIS WAS THE FIRST GOTH ROCK MOVIE!!!!
Note: I made a complete stuttering fool of myself when I met and
got autographs from the two GODS OF ROCK MUSICALS. "It's an honour
to meet the Professor of Spartanetics 101" I stammered to Gerrit",
who PHUCKING ROCKS!!!! For any Geeks out there, it was in reference
to a character he was in another Brian de Palma movie he was in
with Kirk Douglas, "Home Movies". Somehow, I got the faint impression
that Gerrit would rather forget that film was ever made (I know
that Kirk Douglas had weird feelings about it as well). But that
Movie was COOL!!!! Actually, either he would rather forget it, or
perhaps he DID forget it and was wondering what the Bloody Hell
the Freak in his face was talking about. Oh Bloody Hell. I feel
so embarrassed!!!!
August 2005 - Local Scenester Brian Myhrie puts together
what would be the first of the Grand Gothic Balls. He would later
form the Elysium Social Club which is dedicated to bringing Live
Acts to the city as well as putting on cool events like The Anti
Socials.
Apr 29, 2006 - PHANTOMPALOOZA 2!!! Oh, how I wish I could have been to this.
For this one, they went all out with bringing in Paul Williams, and a Juicy Fruits reunion as well!!! It's been reported to have been simply amazing, and Bloody Hell, how could it NOT be?!!
October 28, 2006 - Hellnight 2006 is a success, but it's
also when DJ Evil Bastard officially retires from Ogremind. 10 years
is long enough, and I finally found someone who could carry on the
night. Our friend Rachel has been a regular and constant supporter
of the scene and our night since Wellingtons. I'm now free to hold
the odd event, and perform with my musical project, Groit.
April 23, 2007 - FRONTLINE ASSEMBLY PLAYED IN WINNIPEG!!!
It was at The Pyramid Cabaret, and it was Fucking Unbelievable!!! 16 Volt
and Acumen Nation had to cancell out, and thus did Distorted Memory and
Synkro get to open!!! An astounding performance with a fantastic light show,
the whole thing totally rocked!!! The recorded music doesn't do
justice to the songs as I found out especially during Mindphaser. Awesome
show, Bill, and thank you for signing the poster!!!! Jeremy, Distorted
Memory never sounded better, and Synkro....bloody hell I got there late and
missed your set, but I heard it was great!!!The crowd wasn't as big as when
KMFDM were there, but then it was a monday, and quite a few couldn't make it
out due to school work (Oh man, what you guys missed!!!). Our thanks to
David McKeigan, Manager of The Pyramid, for bringing this to us, and to Bill
Leeb for coming out here. To hear Vigilante live was INCREDIBLE!!!
This was the best show I've ever attended next to Gary Numan in Minneapolis.
Like with Gary, this was for me a religious experience!!!!!!
September 1st, 2007 - Die Maschine's Final Night, and it finished off with
Ogremind's last night there. Another
Chapter closes in our subculture's history. Along with Rachel and myself,
we had DJs Pokey and the return
of DJ Count Zero (If you read the history up to now, you know who he is),
and a performance by Dorian's Gray.
With the biggest turnout we've ever had, we gave away 50 copies of the
Final Night CD, and played straight
til 5 am. A sad day for us since we were all like family there, but there
is a new venue coming up, and
Hellnight 2008 is already in the works. Die Maschine is gone, but the
scene lives on!!! We will, before
the year ends, have a new place to haunt. Thanks to everyone who has
supported Die Maschine/Chaos Chameleon.
The Final Night was fantastic and it all happened because WE ALL MADE IT
HAPPEN!!!
September 8th, 2007 - Mandee Hennessey approaches the
management of Monty's Bar One and manages to convince them to give
her idea of a Goth Night a try. Thus is born CRYPTIC CHAOS, a new
Goth Night that kicks in Saturday Nights at Monty's Bar One on Pembina.
Hosted by Freak 107's DJ Dunc, it plays Rock, Alternative, Goth,
Punk, and Industrial past and present. There is NO COVER, and the
atmosphere is VERY cool. It's located at 2280 Pembina and is sponsored
by The
Crypt!!!!
December 31, 2007 - The Royal Albert Arms presents its final Night under the ownership of Wayne. It's a New Years Eve event to remember! More information later!
January 2, 2008 - With New Years Eve finished (and the
night was completely sold out as it should have righteously so),
Wayne hands the Royal Albert Arms to its new owner, and we all watch
and wait to see what becomes of the building.
Nov. 7th, 2008 - Dark Kore, and Electro/Industrial night
hosted by DJ Atom & DJ Raytch Aytch began at Ozzies, downstairs
at the osborne Village Inn.
February 21, 2009 - Dark Kore holds its final night at
Ozzys. Plans are made to re-establish at a different location.
Friday, November 20, 2009 - Due to financial difficulties
(rumours say embezzlement), The Crypt shuts its doors, and the city
loses another cool business. Daemon, it was great while it lasted
: (
October 2009 - Hellnight 2009 sees the official introduction
of DJ z3r0 to the Monty's crew. z3r0 is also a founding member of
local winnipeg goth band, Nepthys.
February 27th, 2010 - DJ Raytch Aytch decides she prefers
Industrial & EBM and quits Cryptic Chaos to concentrate solely
on that side of the Gothic/Industrial Fence. On Facebook, she forms
the Winnipeg Industrial Music Coalition which quickly grows in membership
to 400 & counting. The First Event of the Coalition is Machinery
of Joy which takes place later at Montys and features DJ Atom &
DJ Jeremy (of Distorted Memory).
Saturday, April 24th, 2010 - Cryptic Chaos has its final
night. Montys Bar One gets new owners who decide to have other plans
for the place. The Final Night sees DJ Raytch Aytch in the Booth
along with Evil Bastard & DJ z3r0. The night went extremely
well. Everyone is sad to see us lose this place.
May, 2010 - Elysium Social Club is created. Its founding
and incorporation as a non-profit organization supporting goth,
industrial and ebm in Winnipeg.
Saturday, May 1st, 2010 - After Dark, a new Goth/Industrial
night hosted by DJ z3r0, begins at Ozzys with DJ Evil Bastard guest
Deejay every second saturday.
Tuesday, May 4th, 2010 - Midi Ghetto Tour comes through
Winnipeg. Performing at Ozzys that night were Chemlab, Left Spine
Down, and Rabid Whole.
June 18, 2010 - Elysium Social Club holds the First Anti
Social. A Raging success. It featured DJ Count Zero[Interrupt],
DJ Raytch Aytch, myself, and DJ z3r0.
Monday, November 15, 2010 - Slick Idiot perform at The
Zoo with local act Kazzoshay and DJ z3r0, and what a show it was!!!
En Esch and Crew were absolutely Awesome!! Amazingly, the cover
was only $7!!! I got to shake En Eschs' hand and apologize for the
low turnout, and he was cool with it. "Don't worry about it",
he said to me. I'd say the body count that night was just over 50
people, and I was rather surprised and disappointed but there was
a bug going around and many must have been bed ridden that night.
Again, this brings to my mind how disappointed I was when Frontline
Assembly wasn't given the appreciation they deserved here. As z3r0
commented, "This is why Skinny Puppy skip Winnipeg when they
pass on their way to Montreal & Toronto".
Saturday, December 18th, 2010 - DJ Evil Bastard DeeJays for the last time at AfterDark (the current Goth/Industrial Night), and happily passes the reigns to DJ z3r0. The Bastard will continue to DJ the Fetish Ball and other outside events, but other than performing live in his musical project, Groit, he's done with the Regular Goth Night gigs and wishes z3r0 the Best : )
Saturday, January 8th, 2011 - Ozzys sees one of its BEST
AfterDark nights EVER with a show featuring local EBM Legends Distorted
Memory & Chaos Theory in an incredible Double Bill. DJ z3r0
did a great job managing the music in between. A Fantastic crowd,
and Amazing Start to a New Year and a New Chapter in our history.
Januray 28, 2011 - Its with sadness that I enter here
thta CHARLES (CHUCK) LESLIE GREEN, Head Honcho of the Osborne Village
Inn, passed away after a lengthy illness at age 54. In our scene,
the Holy Trinity of Venues would be The Royal Albert (ruled by Wayne),
The St. Charles Hotel (which housed Wellingtons - Thank you, Harry)
and the Osborne Village Inn (run by Chuck & his brothers, David
& Coleman who will continue the work) which is home to The Zoo
& Ozzys. When he gave us the Saturdays for AfterDark, we shook
hands and he considered me a Business Partner. A shrewd business
man, he was a straight shooter from my experience, and he was competitive
(you have to give him that). It was he who gave us Ozzys for AfterDark
thus allowing our night to continue. He had faith in us, and we
haven't let him down. Chuck, we're going to do our best to make
the night successful in your name. We thank you, and we'll miss
you. May you Rest In Peace.
March, 2011 - DJ Razed & DJ Macabria put together
The Dark Lantern Society. A support group dedicated to the Goth
Community in Winnipeg, it is devote on taking suggestions and ideas
from said individuals for such things as bar nights and other special
events that you would be interested in seeing the the near future.
Their first contribution is the improvement of AfterDark, enhancing
the atmosphere with candles & roses and their awesome music
and great positive attitudes. These guys REALLY enjoy their work
:)
March 5th, 2011 - DJ z3r0 leaves us to go to Brandon.
We wish him well and will miss his work. Fortunately for the Scene,
the Night Remains. After Dark continues with DJs Count Zero, Macabria
& Razed. On top of this, DJ Raytch Aytch begins doing a special
Winnipeg Industrial Coalition theme for After Dark the last Saturday
of every month and kicks it off the Saturday of March 26, 2011.
March 24th, 2011 - The Residents performed at The West
End Cultural Centre, and I SAW THEM!!!! Okay, so there were only
three of them (it was explained that their drummer, Carlos, had
retired), they only played one song I recognized (Semolina), and
they didn't bring their Eye Ball Heads. Still, it was an amazing
show that played to a packed house. You can find clips of the show
on Youtube if you enter "Residents Winnipeg 2011".
May 15, 2011 - Frontline Assembly Return!!!! iVardensphere
was also on the bill, but there was no time for their spot since
the show was on a Sunday and the bar had to be closed by 1 am. But
At least we got to see Distorted Memory once again open followed
by DJ Accucrack. The weather was Beautiful, and the show was Amazing!!!
Had a better turnout than last time (Thank Bloody Hell). DJ Pokey
got her picture taken with Leeb (Right on, Leslie!!!)
May 22, 2011 - Merzbow plays the Pyramid!!! Originally
this was to be at The Royal Albert, but damage due to heavy rain
that weekend caused the show to be moved. Altogether, it was quite
the intense experience. Joining the Merz on the bill was Venetian
Snares & Not 1/2 (my friend, Al, who was fellow keyboardist
alongside me in Scavenger Vaccum).
September 17, 2011 - En Esch, Gunter Schutlz & Mona
Mur return to The Zoo along with the Promonium Jesters. A rainy
night it was, and it was an excellent show!!! The Bands are as awesome
People as they are Musicians!!!!
October 15, 2011 - Elysium Social Club present Hanzel
Und Gretyl at After Dark along with DJs Count Zero[Interrupt],
Raytch Aytch, and Cyberella. I got to work the fogs & lights,
and it was AMAZING!!!
NOTE: Obviously there are extremely large holes in this
time line. Any corrections, refinements and additions can be e-mailed
to me (as mentioned at the top of this page).
Question: Will someone please tell me when The Gotham
Cafe opened, closed, opened again, and then closed again?
I would also like to know when the first issue of Spooky Winnipeg
came out.
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